Thomas' sons, Michael (born 1759) and John (born 1761), bought Grainger's Farm, part of what became Duckett's Farm (off Lordship Lane). This they farmed while Michael lived on Broadwater Farm, which he rented, and John lived with his wife Elizabeth and their four children (John, Mary, Daniel and Rebecca) in a house on the High Road.

After leaving school, the younger John (born 1803) lived with his uncle Michael on Broadwater Farm.

Michael died in 1834 and young John continued to live there and run the farm.